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fiatjaf
1mo ago
Most relays already honor it, we're getting there.
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jb55
@jb55
1mo ago
i was about to turn mine off the other day because lots of apps are now adding protected events to things like relay group chat? I couldn't use flotilla with my relay because of this.
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fiatjaf
@fiatjaf
1mo ago
The beautiful solution would be to add AUTH support and then accept these events after the client automatically authenticates.
I'm not sure how you would do that, I think instead of forwarding the websocket messages to strfry you could just call "strfry import" and it would accept anything.
I'm not sure how you would do that, I think instead of forwarding the websocket messages to strfry you could just call "strfry import" and it would accept anything.
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Suhail
@Suhail
1mo ago
Good luck with that. I don’t see a point to that.
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fiatjaf
@fiatjaf
1mo ago
Can you explain what you think about it?
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Suhail
@Suhail
1mo ago
Well just like how can you prevent someone from leaking it to another relay? Or a relay they own.
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fiatjaf
@fiatjaf
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1mo ago
That argument applies to any paywall on the internet today, and yet they work reasonably well in most cases.
Even super encrypted private messages can be leaked and screenshots exist, that doesn't mean we should just give up and write everything in public.
Pirated music and movies can be easily found on the internet by anyone, and yet people continue to pay for these things.
In the case of Nostr, NIP-70 together with the conscience of the reader prevent the content from being easily leaked, but nothing is guaranteed, of course.
Even super encrypted private messages can be leaked and screenshots exist, that doesn't mean we should just give up and write everything in public.
Pirated music and movies can be easily found on the internet by anyone, and yet people continue to pay for these things.
In the case of Nostr, NIP-70 together with the conscience of the reader prevent the content from being easily leaked, but nothing is guaranteed, of course.
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corndalorian
@corndalorian
1mo ago
A problem with a paywalled approach is that it artificially limits your reach to only those who already know they want to pay for your content, and this disproportionally hurts smaller/independent artists/musicians/filmmakers/etc. Paywalled systems may work well for you if you are an established artist with a large fan base, or in cases like movies where most people know they want to watch it before they pay for it. Also, most music and movies are included with streaming plans. Most artists are not well known with large followings. Publishing your content freely accessible is a better approach for most artists, as long as they are intentionally publishing it into a system that allows viewers/listeners to easily return value to them, such as on nostr with zaps. There are many examples on nostr already of artists comparing how much more they’ve already made via value-4-value zaps vs. what they’ve made using
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Suhail
@Suhail
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1mo ago
I guess that makes sense. I kinda get the use case now.
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