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There is a wider sense of pan-celticism in Europe, but the movement itself is cultural rather than political, I can't tell you why. There's no european pan-celtic political party and I can only speculate as to the reasons for that.
I could speculate for example, that given the current political zeitgeist in the EU, a pan celtic political movement would be considered to be a form of ethno-nationalism, much like the kind that exists in Israel, and such a movement is not to be tolerated in "modern open minded Europe", that is to say, a Europe that is trying to create a "post nationalist" federation.
The pan celtic festival that occurs in Ireland, Scotland, Wales, Brittany, Cornwall and the Isle of Man might be worth a read:
The festival is a celebration of the cultural links between the Celtic nations of Γire, Alba, Cymru, Breizh,
I could speculate for example, that given the current political zeitgeist in the EU, a pan celtic political movement would be considered to be a form of ethno-nationalism, much like the kind that exists in Israel, and such a movement is not to be tolerated in "modern open minded Europe", that is to say, a Europe that is trying to create a "post nationalist" federation.
The pan celtic festival that occurs in Ireland, Scotland, Wales, Brittany, Cornwall and the Isle of Man might be worth a read:
The festival is a celebration of the cultural links between the Celtic nations of Γire, Alba, Cymru, Breizh,
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5d ago
It's nostr, let me be facetious. Are there not individuals who are inspired by the warrior aspect of celtic history rather than the 19th century romantic neo-druidism nettle-tea/river fairies? π¬
Maybe lack of written history, aside from Roman accounts, has meant there is not a lot of inspiration. Boudicca even an inspiration for female Britons? Do people in those areas identify with the different regional celtic tribes or is that lost?
Lots of questions as I'm interested. Also The Galicians from North West Spain not considered a celtic nation?
Maybe lack of written history, aside from Roman accounts, has meant there is not a lot of inspiration. Boudicca even an inspiration for female Britons? Do people in those areas identify with the different regional celtic tribes or is that lost?
Lots of questions as I'm interested. Also The Galicians from North West Spain not considered a celtic nation?
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I certainly consider the Galicians to be Celtic.
What your describing with the neo-druidism and so on has come to be known in Ireland at least, as the Celtic revival.
As far as I know, the movement consisted of historians, poets, artists, those types. It was more an act of rebellion than anything else. To be unashamedly Celtic in Ireland at that time, was a statement of defiance.
This of course led to the types of romanticism that you're describing, over-egging the pudding so to speak.
In their defence, and as you pointed out, we know very little about druids, as their tradition was an oral one, and the Celtic revival had to piece together their artistic vision from scraps of folklore, which perhaps has led to the over emphasis on fairies and such, moreso than anything else.
Fairies are by far the most misrepresented aspect of celtic mythology.
What your describing with the neo-druidism and so on has come to be known in Ireland at least, as the Celtic revival.
As far as I know, the movement consisted of historians, poets, artists, those types. It was more an act of rebellion than anything else. To be unashamedly Celtic in Ireland at that time, was a statement of defiance.
This of course led to the types of romanticism that you're describing, over-egging the pudding so to speak.
In their defence, and as you pointed out, we know very little about druids, as their tradition was an oral one, and the Celtic revival had to piece together their artistic vision from scraps of folklore, which perhaps has led to the over emphasis on fairies and such, moreso than anything else.
Fairies are by far the most misrepresented aspect of celtic mythology.
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SovereigntyQuest
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5d ago
Interesting that the warrior aspect seems to have been ignored. I would have thought it quite inspiring.
Another question I have.....is there any evidence of the actual types of tattoos/body painting that people might have worn in those times?
Another question I have.....is there any evidence of the actual types of tattoos/body painting that people might have worn in those times?
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Tattoos were made of woad, but how that's known I'm not sure.
Animals were imitated in the hopes of inheriting their characteristics in battle.
For example, dying hair white and spiking into a mane, to perhaps invoke the swiftness of a horse ( ie. Epona/Macha).
Animals were imitated in the hopes of inheriting their characteristics in battle.
For example, dying hair white and spiking into a mane, to perhaps invoke the swiftness of a horse ( ie. Epona/Macha).
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I can actually answer that quite easily:
The brutish aspects of celtic society were glossed over.
Those in the celtic revival were all to concerned with the British accusation that the Irish were brutish, uncivilised, and therefor completely incapable of governing themselves.
They believed such depictions would harm their nationalist cause, as they would only serve to affirm these accusations.
As such, they focused on the softer, abstract and poetic elements.
The brutish aspects of celtic society were glossed over.
Those in the celtic revival were all to concerned with the British accusation that the Irish were brutish, uncivilised, and therefor completely incapable of governing themselves.
They believed such depictions would harm their nationalist cause, as they would only serve to affirm these accusations.
As such, they focused on the softer, abstract and poetic elements.
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Fairy = Na Sidhe meaning mound.
The people of the mound, that is to say, ancestoral forces.
The people of the mound, that is to say, ancestoral forces.
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