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Anthony Accioly
1mo ago
What happens when folks in WoT relays start following bots? 🤣
I've unfollowed several people lately because of this exact problem. I'm starting to think that WoT needs an ownertrust level similar to PGP. Maybe a config file mapping pubkeys to trust levels:
https://gpgtools.tenderapp.com/kb/faq/what-is-ownertrust-trust-levels-explained
As the relay owner, I have "ultimate" ownertrust, meaning if I follow someone, they get write access to the relay.
Everyone I follow directly gets "marginal" trust by default.
If someone I don’t know ("untrusted") is followed by three people I marginally trust, they get write access to my relay (which is basically what you’re already doing in Haven and WoT).
It would be nice to have a couple of additional trust levels though:
Full: I trust utxo not to follow spam bots, so whoever utxo follows gets write access to my relay.
Never: I know someone follows bots, but I don’t want to kick them out of my relay, so their follower data isn’t used for trust calculations (positive or negative).
Reports could work the same way for blacklisting:
Anyone I report as the owner is automatically blacklisted.
Anyone reported by someone I marked as fully trustworthy is also blacklisted.
Anyone reported by three people I marginally trust is blacklisted.
If I mark someone as never to be trusted, their reports are discarded.
What do you think? It sounds more complex than it actually is, and it works well for PGP. Shouldn't be too hard to adapt Haven and WoT to read a new file with custom trust levels.
I've unfollowed several people lately because of this exact problem. I'm starting to think that WoT needs an ownertrust level similar to PGP. Maybe a config file mapping pubkeys to trust levels:
https://gpgtools.tenderapp.com/kb/faq/what-is-ownertrust-trust-levels-explained
As the relay owner, I have "ultimate" ownertrust, meaning if I follow someone, they get write access to the relay.
Everyone I follow directly gets "marginal" trust by default.
If someone I don’t know ("untrusted") is followed by three people I marginally trust, they get write access to my relay (which is basically what you’re already doing in Haven and WoT).
It would be nice to have a couple of additional trust levels though:
Full: I trust utxo not to follow spam bots, so whoever utxo follows gets write access to my relay.
Never: I know someone follows bots, but I don’t want to kick them out of my relay, so their follower data isn’t used for trust calculations (positive or negative).
Reports could work the same way for blacklisting:
Anyone I report as the owner is automatically blacklisted.
Anyone reported by someone I marked as fully trustworthy is also blacklisted.
Anyone reported by three people I marginally trust is blacklisted.
If I mark someone as never to be trusted, their reports are discarded.
What do you think? It sounds more complex than it actually is, and it works well for PGP. Shouldn't be too hard to adapt Haven and WoT to read a new file with custom trust levels.
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utxo the webmaster 🧑💻
@utxo the webmaster 🧑💻
1mo ago
Yes I think something like this has to be the next evolution of the relay
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Anthony Accioly
@Anthony Accioly
1mo ago
I'm promising a lot and not delivering much over the past two weeks, lol. But if you don't get to it first I can try to have a look after finishing the binary distros + backup documentation. My WoT relay got spammed into oblivion thanks to folks following GM zap harvesting boots. 🤣
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utxo the webmaster 🧑💻
@utxo the webmaster 🧑💻
1mo ago
Derek recently put in an issue to wot relay to add reports/muted as a signal. I'm knees dip in bitcoin projects I don't have time for the relays for likely a few months, so go for it if it excites you!
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