Yakihonne | jb55

jb55

2mo ago

nsecbunker has never worked when I have tried it. and I've tried it a good 20 times. maybe I'm dumb.

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Do you have thoughts?

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npub1zuuaj

@npub1zuuaj

2mo ago

The general concept of remote signers or nsecbunker in specific?

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npub12a77q

@npub12a77q

2mo ago

It’s a really bad UX. The local signer app like Amber seems better in every way. Need one of those on iOS….

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npub1ty3ft

@npub1ty3ft

2mo ago

nowser coulb be the bunker

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jb55

@jb55

2mo ago

can't really do it on iOS

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npub1794vv

@npub1794vv

2mo ago

I’m adding signing to the NSD using serial over BLE.

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jb55

@jb55

2mo ago

this is the way

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npub1ven4z

@npub1ven4z

2mo ago

but ironically what CAN be done is using amber on a separate android device as the nsecbunker for apps on ios

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npub100000

@npub100000

2mo ago

Amber on mobile to sign desktop applications is really underrated. For this reason when I redesigned Amber I gave more visibility to the "Add bunker" action.

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npub1vxlhj

@npub1vxlhj

2mo ago

A while back I heard someone say that there was a start9 package for it. But I can’t find it

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npub1clk6v

@npub1clk6v

2mo ago

Nope. Not once.

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npub1pktma

@npub1pktma

2mo ago

You know, acknowledging it is the first step. 😬😅

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npub19ma2w

@npub19ma2w

2mo ago

The Amber implementation of it has worked quite well for me.

That said, I have no idea what it's doing under the hood...

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jb55

@jb55

2mo ago

i didn't think amber was nsecbunker

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npub1d0ena

@npub1d0ena

2mo ago

It offers adding new connections like this:

And then it uses specific relays. Standard is relay.nsec.app

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jb55

@jb55

2mo ago

bizarre it would need to do this, I thought signing stayed on device? why does it need to go to the internet and back just to sign?

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npub1kun56

@npub1kun56

2mo ago

Amber can do entirely local signing using NIP-55, but it also supports remote signing via NIP-46. It uses relays to transfer the unsigned data to Amber, then the data is signed locally and transferred back to the client via relays. The relays used can be selected by the user and can even use a local relay, such as Citrine.

That said, even using Amber for NIP-46 signing has been spotty for me. Not sure why. It is using a similar concept as Nostr Wallet Connect, which has always worked quite well, but remote signing often just fails for some reason.

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npub19ma2w

@npub19ma2w

2mo ago

Maybe just to provide another option for apps that expect this kind of signing?

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npub1d0ena

@npub1d0ena

2mo ago

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npub1nnn37

@npub1nnn37

2mo ago

Maybe i'm dumber for trying it once more than you did. *sigh*

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jb55

@jb55

2mo ago

Might be a combination of buggy implementations, poor connections, rate limiting. Doesn’t seem like it would be reliable unless im using a dedicated relay for it

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jb55

@jb55

2mo ago

finally got it working with nak + chachi.chat, didn't work initially but now it does.. alrighty.

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npub100000

@npub100000

2mo ago

Knox by @Alex Gleason is also a very good implementation.

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npub1l2vyh

@npub1l2vyh

2mo ago

yeah, I started running a relay specifically for it because most relays kicked me out or would not reliably relay ephemeral events for some reason

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npub10npj3

@npub10npj3

2mo ago

these ephemeral events are voodoo.. when testing nwc i could swear that using a basic nak --stream for the type doesnt always show the events. but i have a really hard time confirming the client actually tried to send it (vs. sent somewhere else). and it doesnt always happen.. 🤔

could be bug? 🐛 strfry 1.0+

also, confirmed bug with strfry 0.9.x cpu race condition on ephemeral event expiration prob doesnt help.

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npub1w4usw

@npub1w4usw

2mo ago

Could be a bug in the relay but if you are testing in a web browser if you minimize it or change tabs the relay will disconnect and once you open the browser again it will connect again, if the client didn't implement anything to send requests to the relay again after this it will never get the bunker response
That's one of the reasons why relays should store the ephemeral events for some minutes and not just send it to the active subscriptions

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npub1q8gth

@npub1q8gth

2mo ago

Noob. Obviously know nothing about nostr

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npub12z8js

@npub12z8js

2mo ago

You are far from dumb Williams.

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