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Vitor Pamplona
2mo ago
You could build those things, but if you trully understand property rights and respect what others are building in a capitalistic society, you wouldn't do it.
And yes, Google is evil and so on.. But that doesn't give you the right to steal.
And yes, Google is evil and so on.. But that doesn't give you the right to steal.
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npub1q6ya7
@npub1q6ya7
2mo ago
Please explain how it is stealing? I am watching a video stream produced by a content creator who makes nothing or barely anything from one view. I have not absconded with a thing from a particular place without permission of the owner of said thing
Google can shut off the spigot by requiring users to sign in to an account using their app. They have not and I posit will not do so. That is not my issue.
That whole model is broken. It must be stopped, and I think nostr may help break the back of those monsters, eventually. V4V will help, being transparent about hosting media will help, educating people on how things work will help.
But watching a streaming video online without sitting through manipulative propoganda and sometimes vilely disgusting is NOT stealing. Especially since I've never agreed to those terms for years.
Google can shut off the spigot by requiring users to sign in to an account using their app. They have not and I posit will not do so. That is not my issue.
That whole model is broken. It must be stopped, and I think nostr may help break the back of those monsters, eventually. V4V will help, being transparent about hosting media will help, educating people on how things work will help.
But watching a streaming video online without sitting through manipulative propoganda and sometimes vilely disgusting is NOT stealing. Especially since I've never agreed to those terms for years.
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Vitor Pamplona
@Vitor Pamplona
2mo ago
Do you pay the creator and the platform directly for all the videos that you blocked the ads from? You are using somebody else's property in a way they didn't agree with. So, you better offer some compensation via other means.
If you want to watch it without ads, pay the provider of those services and/or the creator directly. That's why we are here.
It doesn't matter how little the creator gets from you on an ad-based system. If everyone blocks ads, neither the platform, not the creator would exist. So the ad is essential to the terms and conditions of the material you are consuming.
If you want to watch it without ads, pay the provider of those services and/or the creator directly. That's why we are here.
It doesn't matter how little the creator gets from you on an ad-based system. If everyone blocks ads, neither the platform, not the creator would exist. So the ad is essential to the terms and conditions of the material you are consuming.
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npub16phxq
@npub16phxq
2mo ago
This has the same energy as those anti-piracy ads back in the day or the big Napster controversy. You're displaying your work in a public town square but you're mad that passers by are looking at it without paying you. Defending that kind of behaviour is asking for violence since that's the only way to enforce this. Its not stealing to use an adblocker. Find a better monetisation model.
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Vitor Pamplona
@Vitor Pamplona
2mo ago
YouTube is not a "public town square". It's the complete opposite of that.
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npub1q6ya7
@npub1q6ya7
2mo ago
It is Google's square, but they are letting people wander through without asking for 🆔 or up front payment.
So, again... Not the same as stealing. They can ask me to leave unless I identify myself. They could ask me to agree to view ads or they won't stream videos. They do not. So, I will not be viewing ads as long as possible until they simply close the gates.
Until I can support creators directly without KYC or anything else getting in the way like I can and do via the Nostr protocol and (currently) lightning (and I hope lightning dies an inglorious death in the wake of something more sensible), then I'm just gonna see what I can see until I can't see it no more.
I asked about this nearly immediately after I started using nostr once I found amethyst on
So, again... Not the same as stealing. They can ask me to leave unless I identify myself. They could ask me to agree to view ads or they won't stream videos. They do not. So, I will not be viewing ads as long as possible until they simply close the gates.
Until I can support creators directly without KYC or anything else getting in the way like I can and do via the Nostr protocol and (currently) lightning (and I hope lightning dies an inglorious death in the wake of something more sensible), then I'm just gonna see what I can see until I can't see it no more.
I asked about this nearly immediately after I started using nostr once I found amethyst on
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npub1zzmxv
@npub1zzmxv
2mo ago
Exactly 💯
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npub1m4ny6
@npub1m4ny6
2mo ago
I agree.
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